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Interview with NPR Director Bob Stone

November 20,1997

For syndicated use in federal newsletters. Feel free to use any or all of the following interview in your newsletters. If you would like to add a few questions specific to your agency, please send them to Carrie Carnes and I will get them approved. Photos of Bob Stone are available upon request.  

      Bob Stone is Project Director for President Clinton and Vice President Gore's National Performance Review, the Reinventing Government Initiative. He is a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense where he earned a reputation as a deregulator, decentralizer, and passionate advocate of putting authority at the front line. He has more than lived up to his reputation at NPR. The federal workplace is changing -- becoming a government that works better and costs less -- thanks to the efforts of reinventors all across government.

Q: How did NPR start?
Stone: The National Performance Review was created by President Clinton on March 3, 1993. He said the government is broken and we intend to fix it. He appointed Vice President Gore to head an interagency task force and the Vice President asked me to be the project director. I jumped at the chance of a lifetime. He had been interested in my efforts at Defense to simply and eliminate regs to free people's enthusiasm and creativity.

We put together a task force composed of more than 250 people, almost all career civil servants. The President gave us six months to have a report to him. "We have good people trapped in a bad system," Vice President Gore said. The Vice President was heavily involved in this effort., including holding town meetings with federal employees all over the country and meeting with each agency head to ensure his or her support for our recommendations.

Ever since, a much smaller NPR has been working closely with each agency to become more customer-oriented. The Vice President's last report, The Best Kept Secrets in Government, was published in September. You can find it on our Web site at http://www.npr.gov, or in your bookstore.

Q: What is NPR doing to overcome the perception that reinvention is only about downsizing?
Stone: NPR is not about getting rid of government -- it's about creating a government that makes sense. This has led to some job cuts, just as in the private sector. When we have had to reduce the workforce, we have done it mostly through attrition, slowed hiring, and buyouts. We have worked extensively with the affected individuals, providing counseling and outplacement referral systems.

We've tried to be selective and cut out just the parts of government that we don't need any more--and federal workers helped us find those places. For example, it was a procurement specialist who told us that we should change the law to make small purchases so simple that we no longer need procurement specialists to handle them.

Reinvention includes downsizing, but that's not its focus. We want an employee environment like the one you're trying to build at IOC--a high involvement workplace where self-managing teams are the norm. You are flattening management hierarchies and empowering workers to make decisions and be innovative. You are creating successful labor management partnerships to focus on getting results together. Several IOC installations are pioneers, winning awards for labor-management teams that improve customer service and save money. That's reinvention at its best.

   

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